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		<description><![CDATA[So, I should be getting around $5,500 in a subsidized tuition loan that I do not need. I was thinking about selling my current (highly outdated) HTPC and building a new one when the money comes in.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I should be getting around $5,500 in a subsidized tuition loan that I do not need. I was thinking about selling my current (highly outdated) HTPC and building a new one when the money comes in.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t really reuse any of my current parts other than my PCI Wireless-G card. I also will be moving my RAID drives from my main PC to the HTPC (5 Seagate ES 320GB 16GB Cache SATA-II drives). I plan on getting 5 Seagate 1TB SATA-II drives and keeping my current LSI RAID controller with my main PC and using the second one I have for the HTPC, if I build a RAID. If I can find a setting for the RAID to initialize as the computer boots, not before, I will use the RAID controller&#8230; otherwise the RAMDisk is pointless. I am out of space on my main PC&#8217;s RAID so I will be getting the 1TB drives either way. I may sell a few of the 320&#8217;s though, haven&#8217;t decided.<br /><span id="more-333"></span></p>
<p>So, my current list-o-crap to buy:<br />
- Intel Q6600 &gt; $209.99<br />
-  &gt; $239.99 **FIXED 7/14 4:41PM CST<br />
-  &gt; $58.00<br />
- &gt; $164.99 **CHANGED 7/14 5:23PM CST<br />
- &gt; $145.99<br />
- Some optical drive &gt; ~$30<br />
- Arctic Cooling MX-2 &gt; $7<br />
- Haven&#8217;t decided on the case (not a HTPC case) &gt; ~$100<br />
- Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500 MCE &gt; on its way&#8230; **ADDED 7/14 4:41PM CST</p>
<p>This next section will be for my OS. I will run a mobo based RAID-0 to increase the capacity to 8GB&#8230; data loss is irrelavent and the logical drive will be imaged for fast/easy reload if necessary.<br />
-  &gt; $149.99 ea = $299.98<br />
- &gt; $94.00 ea = $376.00</p>
<p>This next section will be my storage. Will be RAID-5 if I do it, otherwise just a few 320s.<br />
- 5x Seagate ES 320GB 16GB Cache SATA-II drives &gt; already have<br />
- LSI </p>
<p>Then in order to steal my RAID drives from my main PC I need to replace them with:<br />
- &gt; $239.99 ea &gt; $1,199.95</p>
<p>TOTAL COST ~ $2,800</p>
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The computer will be required to do video compressing, video playback, and act as a DVR. Fast boot time and cpu power is what I care most about with this one.. well, faster and more powerful than my P4 1.8GHz.</p>
<p>Thoughts? Opinions? Degree of overkill statements?<br />Good lord.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to go that overkill, at least add a Blu Ray drive.
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<div style="italic">Good lord.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to go that overkill, at least add a Blu Ray drive.</p></div>
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<p>I didn&#8217;t even think about that. I really can&#8217;t justify it as much as the other components right now though. Maybe down the line.</p>
<p>I just realized a problem though. I ran out of PCI slots not thinking about a TV Tuner. So, I suppose I&#8217;ll have to hard wire the HTPC into the router. Not a big deal, just strait through the wall behind it and there is already a hole in the corner for the cable wire.
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<p>Well crack-ass&#8230; I added the wrong one to my cart. Fixed now&#8230;.<br />looks like you need a psu with more sata power connectors<br />
should have bought a tuner with ATSC/QAM<br />
minus whale get an aftermarket cooler<br />
don&#8217;t need a 4850?
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<p>I figured that it gives out enough juice and I have several Molex to SATA adapters around that it would be fine. Though the 620 version isn&#8217;t too much more expensive and has plenty. I might upgrade to it. (assuming I have a RAID in this box as well, otherwise I&#8217;ll probably switch it back down)</p>
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<p>Eh, thought about it but not too big a deal for me. I didn&#8217;t really plan on doing scheduled recording. I might someday or I might regret it, we&#8217;ll see.</p>
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<p>Didn&#8217;t really put much thought into that since I wasn&#8217;t planning on OCing. But I guess in the scheme of things, they aren&#8217;t too expensive&#8230; What do you recommend?</p>
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<p>Not gaming. I don&#8217;t need that much GPU. Cyberlink lists the following as recommended (not just minimum) for blu-ray playback: ATI Radeon HD 2400, 2600, 2900 series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400, 3600, 3800 Series &#8230;.. I think I&#8217;ll be fine<br />molex is only +5v and +12v <br />
sata power = those two and +3.3v<br />
even if you use an adapter on the molex, there will still be no +3.3v<br />
some drives require the +3.3v  (e.g. hot plugging)<br />
if this doesn&#8217;t apply to yours, using the adapter should be fine</p>
<p>the wintv-pvr-500 will need a converter box to work after feb 2009</p>
<p>cooler,&#8230;. depends on your case.  arctic freezer 7 pro or one of the zalmans if you don&#8217;t want those large ones.  if you will not oc, the stock cooler is fine.</p>
<p>i&#8217;d still get the 4850, but that&#8217;s me.
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<div style="italic">molex is only +5v and +12v <br />
sata power = those two and +3.3v<br />
even if you use an adapter on the molex, there will still be no +3.3v<br />
some drives require the +3.3v (e.g. hot plugging)<br />
if this doesn&#8217;t apply to yours, using the adapter should be fine</p>
<p>the wintv-pvr-500 will need a converter box to work after feb 2009</p>
<p>cooler,&#8230;. depends on your case. arctic freezer 7 pro or one of the zalmans if you don&#8217;t want those large ones. if you will not oc, the stock cooler is fine.</p>
<p>i&#8217;d still get the 4850, but that&#8217;s me.</p></div>
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<p>As for the PSU, I think if I do a RAID I&#8217;ll get the one thats in the list now with plenty of SATA cables, if not then I&#8217;ll go back to the other.</p>
<p>As for the TV tuner, I have cable boxes for both of my TVs and will probably run the cable from the box to the computer.</p>
<p>As for the coolers, I&#8217;ll check those out.</p>
<p>As for the video card. I won&#8217;t be purchasing this beast for a month or so. I have time to think about it. More so just getting a price estimate right now and thinking about wether I want to spend the money.
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<div style="italic">As for the PSU, I think if I do a RAID I&#8217;ll get the one thats in the list now with plenty of SATA cables, if not then I&#8217;ll go back to the other.</p>
<p>As for the TV tuner, I have cable boxes for both of my TVs and will probably run the cable from the box to the computer.</p>
<p>As for the coolers, I&#8217;ll check those out.</p>
<p>As for the video card. I won&#8217;t be purchasing this beast for a month or so. I have time to think about it. More so just getting a price estimate right now and thinking about wether I want to spend the money.</p></div>
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<p>Get a DVB-C (QAM) w/ NTSC card (maybe with ATSC if you like antennae, otherwise fuck ATSC)<br />
You never know what your cable box situation may be in the future<br />fast boot time and cpu power are what you care about&#8230;.  wtf? boot time? throw a linux distro on there and never (almost) reboot again.  it&#8217;s an htpc for crying out loud&#8230;   i think you&#8217;re on overkill by quite a bit.   what video compressing are you going to be doing all the time?  especially since you dont even plan on doing scheduled recording??<br />Why do you need to spend $800 on an 8GB iram setup? IMO a complete waste of money for an HTPC.<br />also,  you&#8217;re getting a $5.5k loan&#8230;. not a grant.  why are you blowing loan money on a $3k HTPC when a $1800 would suffice (including those 5Tb harddrives)?
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<p>I actually turn off my computers when they are not in use. Leaving them on makes no sense to me unless it is a server, its just more electricity used and more wear on the components. As for linux, I thought about that when I first setup the one I have now but decided against it. Reason being that I like Windows and secondly I&#8217;m not the only one using it (live with my girlfriend) and I want it to be as user friendly as possible.</p>
<p>As for video compressing. I told my parents a while ago that I would put their VHS&#8217;s and home video onto DVD (they have quite a few VHSs and old analog home video&#8230; not really compression so much as just encoding but similiar idea). My girlfriend would like me to digitize her movies as well (she has around 300).</p>
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<p>Just a dream. Whether it turns into reality, I haven&#8217;t decided if it is worth the money to me or not yet. I had downtime at work yesterday and have been thinking about upgrading/building a new HTPC so I speced out my dream HTPC. I&#8217;m sure it will change quite a bit before I build it, if I do, and I would like to get an idea of my high end costs.</p>
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<p>I understand this. I have the money now but would wait for the loan money to come in just so I don&#8217;t have to worry about cash. I work and make more than I spend monthly so I know my savings would be replenished just fine so I can pay the loan back in full when the first payment is due. My current HTPC suffices as well, but I use it more than I thought when I first set it up and have been thinking that it would be worth the money to upgrade it. The computer that is currently acting as my HTPC is just my old desktop. I have put money into re-usable peripherials for it but nothing in the computer itself since it has been replaced as my main computer. It was a retail Sony from 2002 so my options are limited on what I can do with it. I&#8217;m fine with the TV right now as I can see someone saying that is where I should spend my money.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t have much use for it. How useful/useless is this thing?makes a good server but harddrives are a PITA to replace so dont rely on itI think we still have ours from when we had an internal mail server at work&#8230;  I guess Comcast didn&#8217;t want it back&#8230; It&#8217;s been almost 6 years.That [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have much use for it. How useful/useless is this thing?<br />makes a good server but harddrives are a PITA to replace so dont rely on it<br />I think we still have ours from when we had an internal mail server at work&#8230;  I guess Comcast didn&#8217;t want it back&#8230; It&#8217;s been almost 6 years.<br />That thing is pretty ancient nowadays. AMD K6-2? That&#8217;s like 1998.</p>
<p>If you want to keep it, I&#8217;d turn it into a Mini-ITX box.
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<p>Do you mean hard to source or physically hard ot get to?  It looks like it uses ATA/33 drives or ultrawide SCSI which aren&#8217;t that hard to find.  It also has USB ports and a PCI slot to add an SATA card.  <br /><span id="more-94"></span></p>
<p>Slow proc like deusex said, but it&#8217;s not a workstation it&#8217;s an appliance.
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<div style="italic">That thing is pretty ancient nowadays. AMD K6-2? That&#8217;s like 1998.</p>
<p>If you want to keep it, I&#8217;d turn it into a Mini-ITX box.</p></div>
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<p> Yeah, it&#8217;d be sad slow if you used the HW that&#8217;s inside, even for a base linux build . FreeNAS would even choke.</p>
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<p>				The Qube 3 used a 450 MHz  CPU and was the last product in the Qube line.</p>
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<p>I have a Raq box I keep in my closet that I use for DNS</p>
<p>lol<br />if its not doing anything right now just throw it away.  Something compatible can be bought for less than 100$ and would save electricity and heating costs.<br />I still think it would make a good Mini-ITX box. No reason to throw out a perfectly good case, one which looks better than most no less.<br />I think I am going to try a mini-computer/sleeper setup (i.e. a little box that packs a punch in the performance dept.)</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see just how much I can cram into it. I got this thing from my job&#8230;the old tech bought it, and I was told he had it hooked up for all of a month, then he just put it in his closet, and there it sat. </p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t find any CDs or documentation at the office, but later downloaded these things.</p>
<p>I just popped the top on it and it has 128MB RAM, and 2 HDs in it&#8230;dunno what size yet. Raid setup, perhaps? I&#8217;m not sure if it came with this, or if he upgraded it.</p>
<p>It is the Professional Edition, if that means anything. I&#8217;m still researching.</p>
<p>Now, my only thing with the mini-itx boards is this&#8230;</p>
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See that board? Notice the VGA and other various connectors? Well, the case is not made for those, so how in the heck am I supposed to find a board for this thing?<br />Get out the dremel and get to modding.  It probably has a non-standard board in it (along with non-standard mounting points).</p>


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