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what do you guys think about this router? (No more dlink.. they suck&#8230; LINKSYS is good right?)
(supports 802.11n)Looks good to me.  But you know what they say about assholes and opinions.I had mucho problems with my [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 8 year old DLINK router is acting weird (i keep getting disconnected when I try to connect wirelessly)</p>
<p>what do you guys think about this router? (No more dlink.. they suck&#8230; LINKSYS is good right?)</p>
<p>(supports 802.11n)<br />Looks good to me.  But you know what they say about assholes and opinions.<br />I had mucho problems with my Linksys WRTs until I went with a D-Link DIR-655 and have never had issues since.<br />I like my ZyXEL X-550. Had it for only 6 months or so and haven&#8217;t had a single low strength or dropped connection, absolutely no issues with it so far.<br /><span id="more-402"></span></p>
<p>I&#8217;m using it in a 2 bedroom 920 sq ft apartment and have 2 hard-wired computers, 2 wireless computers, 1 wireless Wii, and occasionally 1 wireless phone.<br />I was going to buy that model, but went with the WRT100 since I have nothing that uses 802.11n.  No problems with it so far.<br />so you had the router for 8 years before it started failing you and you think that sucks?  sounds pretty good to me.
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<p>. same here</p>
<p>linksys would disconnect me 4-8 times a day, and wouldn&#8217;t work again via wireless until I cycled the power.</p>
<p>Returned it, bought a D-link for $50 and had no problems
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<div style="italic">. same here</p>
<p><b>linksys would disconnect me 4-8 times a day, and wouldn&#8217;t work again via wireless until I cycled the power.</b></p>
<p>Returned it, bought a D-link for $50 and had no problems</p></div>
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<p>That problem has been fixed.. although it took them 3 generations to fix.
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<p>in any case, I still will strongly recommend D-Link over linksys any day at this point in time<br />I went from linksys to the D-Link DIR-655. Great choice. 802.11n, GB Ethernet, decent control panel. Never drops, can cover my whole house and has zero interference from microwaves or cordless phones.
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<p>Was there ever a good one?
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<p>Over 3 billion people believe in something that can&#8217;t be proved&#8230;. <br />Lately I&#8217;ve been using Catalyst::Rose::Controller::CRUD at work.  You know it CAN&#8217;T DO CRUD on a table with a compound primary key?  I began to empathize with the RAILS haters when that happened, as hacking around that limitation was so much harder than no framework at all.<br />Rails is great in theory, if it was able to do what is says. Active Record pattern is not implemented 100% and breaks a lot of shit when people want to run CRUD with more complex relationships.</p>
<p>Good god if you want to scale, it&#8217;s gonna pound you in the ass.</p>
<p>Sounds a lot like communism to me, great in theory too but fails epically!
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<p>no there arn&#8217;t that many mac users.<br />NetGear ProSafe firewall/vpn/router in the blue metal box. I <i>think</i> you can get one with a built-in wireless access point, but there&#8217;s no reason (cost aside) not to just get a separate ProSafe WAP. They have some nice auto-tuning features that make it easy to drown out all other wireless signals within your space, but not outside your space.<br />the netgear units WERE good, but i don&#8217;t recommend them any more.  They don&#8217;t have the power to keep up with modern high-speed connections.<br />I use them in my office on a dual business DSL setup. The DSL is definitely the bottleneck. Their gigabit switches are particularly good.
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<p>The DSL would be the bottleneck compared to almost any ethernet device made this decade.
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<p>The DSL would be the bottleneck compared to almost any ethernet device made this decade.</p></div>
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<p>No, not the WRTs.  They crap out.
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<p>not with dd::wrt
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<p>Supposedly.  But I wouldn&#8217;t know, DD::wrt wouldn&#8217;t load on any of my revision WRTs.
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<p>what versions?<br />Fucked if I know, I threw the WRTs in teh garbage a long time ago.
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<p>Believe it or not, DD::WRT is not supported on all WRTs.  It is not flawless limitless magical software any more than OS X is.<br />I used to be a huge linksys sackrider.. but they have failed me a few times now.. 4 of them, I believe.</p>
<p>Now I have an airport extreme and wouldn&#8217;t buy anything different.
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<p>and yet you couldn&#8217;t aswer a simple question such as &quot;what was the version #?&quot; so I&#8217;m gonna have to go with pebkac as the most likely issue.
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<p>most people have lives and don&#8217;t memorize the version numbers of their gear
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<p>The DSL would be the bottleneck compared to almost any ethernet device made this decade.</p></div>
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<p>That goes for anything short of a direct fiber connection, sparky.  Even a T3 is slower than a gigabit switch.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not defending my office&#8217;s cheap internet connection, but your point is still moot.
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<p>Look at the underside of the damn box already. It&#8217;s printed on a sticker.
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<p>after they&#8217;ve thrown it out?
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<p>Look at the insurance photos then.</p>
<p>(j/k)<br />I admit it.  The fact that I don&#8217;t know the version number of a router I haven&#8217;t had for years indicates that I&#8217;m a fraud, and that even though DD::WRT didn&#8217;t work with that hardware because it didn&#8217;t work with that hardware, it was actually ALL MY FAULT.</p>
<p>Jolly&#8217;s got to win sometimes.
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<p>i had a WRT54G but it was like a version 6 or something so it would only allow DD-WRT micro.  it was ok, but then I got a WRT54GL which is the linksys router built for custom firmware and I put tomato on it, it has worked great.  these are the only two routers i&#8217;ve owned and neither has crapped out yet.<br />p.s., if you&#8217;re interested in a WRT54GL there&#8217;s a slickdeal going for them right now: <br />I object to having to mess with a router to get it to work.  I just want them to work.  So I got one that does.
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<p>Agreed<br />you guys talking about third party firmware?  i mean cause the router works out of the box and linksys actually has a pretty decent default firmware, it&#8217;s just if you want some of those extra features that don&#8217;t usually come standard.  the QoS in Tomato is freakin amazing.<br />WRTs for about a decade DID NOT WORK.  They overheated and dropped connectons.  Linksys did NOTHING to fix that for 10 years.  I&#8217;m supposed to give them my business?</p>
<p>Fuck that.
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<div style="italic">WRTs for about a decade DID NOT WORK.  They overheated and dropped connectons.  Linksys did NOTHING to fix that for 10 years.  I&#8217;m supposed to give them my business?</p>
<p>Fuck that.</p></div>
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<p>i&#8217;m not saying you should&#8230;  just speaking from my own personal experience, i&#8217;ve only owned more recent models of linksys products and they&#8217;ve done everything i&#8217;ve expected them to 
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<p>well maybe <i>they</i> don&#8217;t trust you <br />I never did understand what was so bloody difficult about adding a small, low-speed fan to the design of the case. All the pro hardware has them, maybe there&#8217;s a reason for it.
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<p>or a bigger fucking heatsink?</p>
<p>Whats more&#8230; if DD::WRT fixed the problem, why the fuck didn&#8217;t they use that fix?  This went on for a decade.
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<div style="italic">or a bigger fucking heatsink?</p>
<p>Whats more&#8230; if DD::WRT fixed the problem, why the fuck didn&#8217;t they use that fix?  This went on for a decade.</p></div>
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<p>Heatsinks don&#8217;t do any good if there&#8217;s nothing to carry the heat out of the case. Since it&#8217;s a plastic case, there&#8217;s no way to conduct the heat, so that leaves convection as the only option.</p>
<p>Well, they could mold the case so the heatsink can protrude, then it could radiate heat out of the case, but they&#8217;ll never do that, so really, convection is the only way to make it work. Remove case, insert fan, connect wires, reinstall case, profit.
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<div style="italic">Heatsinks don&#8217;t do any good if there&#8217;s nothing to carry the heat out of the case. Since it&#8217;s a plastic case, there&#8217;s no way to conduct the heat, so that leaves convection as the only option.</p>
<p>Well, they could mold the case so the heatsink can protrude, then it could radiate heat out of the case, but they&#8217;ll never do that, so really, convection is the only way to make it work. Remove case, insert fan, connect wires, reinstall case, profit.</p></div>
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<p>Bigger holes for heatsink to vent.  The point being that a 3rd grader could have solved this problem in 10 years, and they couldn&#8217;t.
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<p> I solved it in ten minutes on mine.</p>
<p>Also, right now I&#8217;m using one of the new shiny black Linksys routers at home, and it&#8217;s been working nicely despite BT downloads and online gaming and multiple installs of Service Pack 3, so I&#8217;m content with it for now. If I had it to do over again, I&#8217;d still buy NetGear ProSafe hardware, though. Metal &gt; Plastic.<br />you guys talking about third party firmware?  i mean cause the router works out of the box and linksys actually has a pretty decent default firmware, it&#8217;s just if you want some of those extra features that don&#8217;t usually come standard.  the QoS in Tomato is freakin amazing.<br />WRTs for about a decade DID NOT WORK.  They overheated and dropped connectons.  Linksys did NOTHING to fix that for 10 years.  I&#8217;m supposed to give them my business?</p>
<p>Fuck that.
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<div style="italic">WRTs for about a decade DID NOT WORK.  They overheated and dropped connectons.  Linksys did NOTHING to fix that for 10 years.  I&#8217;m supposed to give them my business?</p>
<p>Fuck that.</p></div>
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<p>i&#8217;m not saying you should&#8230;  just speaking from my own personal experience, i&#8217;ve only owned more recent models of linksys products and they&#8217;ve done everything i&#8217;ve expected them to 
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<p>well maybe <i>they</i> don&#8217;t trust you <br />I never did understand what was so bloody difficult about adding a small, low-speed fan to the design of the case. All the pro hardware has them, maybe there&#8217;s a reason for it.
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<p>or a bigger fucking heatsink?</p>
<p>Whats more&#8230; if DD::WRT fixed the problem, why the fuck didn&#8217;t they use that fix?  This went on for a decade.
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<div style="italic">or a bigger fucking heatsink?</p>
<p>Whats more&#8230; if DD::WRT fixed the problem, why the fuck didn&#8217;t they use that fix?  This went on for a decade.</p></div>
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<p>Heatsinks don&#8217;t do any good if there&#8217;s nothing to carry the heat out of the case. Since it&#8217;s a plastic case, there&#8217;s no way to conduct the heat, so that leaves convection as the only option.</p>
<p>Well, they could mold the case so the heatsink can protrude, then it could radiate heat out of the case, but they&#8217;ll never do that, so really, convection is the only way to make it work. Remove case, insert fan, connect wires, reinstall case, profit.
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<div style="italic">Heatsinks don&#8217;t do any good if there&#8217;s nothing to carry the heat out of the case. Since it&#8217;s a plastic case, there&#8217;s no way to conduct the heat, so that leaves convection as the only option.</p>
<p>Well, they could mold the case so the heatsink can protrude, then it could radiate heat out of the case, but they&#8217;ll never do that, so really, convection is the only way to make it work. Remove case, insert fan, connect wires, reinstall case, profit.</p></div>
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<p>Bigger holes for heatsink to vent.  The point being that a 3rd grader could have solved this problem in 10 years, and they couldn&#8217;t.
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<p> I solved it in ten minutes on mine.</p>
<p>Also, right now I&#8217;m using one of the new shiny black Linksys routers at home, and it&#8217;s been working nicely despite BT downloads and online gaming and multiple installs of Service Pack 3, so I&#8217;m content with it for now. If I had it to do over again, I&#8217;d still buy NetGear ProSafe hardware, though. Metal &gt; Plastic.</p>


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