What we are trying to do is print brochure inserts. We have ordered custom brochure folders already but now we plan to print the inserts ourselves.

What is a good printer for this? a printer that is under 500.00

Thanks in advance
good? under 500? something you’re going to give to customers?

no.
I’m assuming you’re going to want to print in color, so Ink Jet is your preferred option in that case. If you are printing a lot, look for a printer that has a low cost per page. Basically, the main difference that I’ve found is when you get a cheap printer it uses ink cartridges that are half filled while a more expensive printer gets a full cartridge. So, for the same $30 per cartridge you get more prints out of the full cartridge and thus lower cost per page.

there are plenty of ink jet printers under $500 that can print out very nice stuff. for over $500 you’re going to get something that prints faster, cheaper per page and lasts longer (higher number of pages it is expected to last). to say that you can’t get quality out of a sub-$500 printer is ignorant.

i’ve got an HP printer that i bought years ago for about $300 (printer/scanner/copier/fax). it prints very nice and my wife used it for quite a while to print shit for her students (she was a 3rd grade teacher in a shithole school that locked the photocopiers away from the teachers). she has printed tons of stuff over the years and the thing is still cranking without a problem. every so often i’ll print out flyers for my father’s business, though if he wants a lot he’ll go to a printing company just because in large quantities it makes sense.
speed and cost per page on inkjet printers is horrible at decent quality settings. It’s good for home and very low-volume usage where initial cost and size are prohibitive… However, if you’re printing out brochures "en mass" then it’s not the right technology.

I’d say double the budget and get a Xerox Phaser.

Only the best. Anything less is shit right?
Also, he said good, not great. Something for $500 may well do the job. And you don’t even know what volume he is printing in. So what if its a little more cost per page? Doesn’t matter if he isn’t printing thousands upon thousands.

You say he should spend $1000? Is his volume of printing on a lower cost per page printer gonna outweigh that extra $500?

TS needs to do some sums I think.
HP 2550L or HP 2550ps

that works good for me. they were like $299 a few years back. prints good and a pretty low cost per page.
we are looking to print out about 3000 brochure inserts about 5×8 inserts
and i have only heard good things about canon , epson and hp
So basically what is gonna go on these inserts will be our menus for catering. With some light graphics behind the writing.
So the first wave of prints will be 3000 prints on the inserts and once we use up those, we will print another 3000 or more.

So yea i need something that lasts.

i Appreciate all the suggestions
honestly, if you’re doing 3000 at a time, and you’ll do it more than once, you are much better off with something like a Phaser.
Why not get a Xerox Phaser 8560?

It’s a little more than your budget, but it IS worth it, and will end up paying for itself over time, with ink costs.

If you don’t need duplex support, then you can get one for $699.

is this also an inkjet and how much are the catridges? I havent used xerox before

it is NOT an inkjet.

you do NOT want an inkjet.

the 8560 is a solid-ink printer.

30ppm in both bw and color
5 seconds first-page-out.
2400ppi resolution
625 sheet capacity standard, optional 1675 extended capacity
network connectivity standard
85,000 ppm duty cycle
fastest color print speed in its class
fastest first-page-out in its class
cartridge-free ink design means you can add more ink without losing the ink already in the printer. and it’s solid so no messy liquids to mess with

here’s the pdf on cost-per-print:

great. this looks good! So whast the different between solid ink to inkjet? Thanks so much for the help
should answer all your questions about solid-ink

this looks like its definately what i need however i am not even sure if theres ink block catridges can even be purchased in retail stores since this technology is more of a exclusiveness to Xerox only.
you can buy these printers outright, or lease them. leases often include maintenance and ink contracts.

if you buy it outright, you can buy ink through local office supply houses such as IKON, or online.

office depot does sell them, but they’re over-priced.

Ordering online is the way to go, imo. you can get 16 packs for $169 or less (4 of each of the colors).
I used to work in a print shop, and we used a Phaser for a lot of different applications. They’re workhorses, and solid-ink printed docs have a really professional look to them, imo. I’d recommend the Phaser if you’re willing to spend the money.
Power consumption: The ink must be heated and a large portion of the printing mechanism must be kept at or near the ink’s melting point. Printers often keep a small pool of each color wax heated to temperature when the printer is not in one of its low-power modes. This is similar to laser printers which need to heat the fuser assembly. Inkjet printers do not require heated components (save high end, large format devices such as those used for sign making.) Xerox solid ink devices are typically incapable of meeting Energy Star requirements; they essentially become unusable if they do meet them. When Xerox sells an allegedly Energy Star compliant device, its "Intelligent Ready" algorithm immediately kicks in, and within 2 weeks the heaters are on all of the time.
Printer damage from moving: The printer contains melted wax when at operating temperature, and owners manuals warn it cannot be moved until it has completed a special cool-down cycle selected from the machine’s control panel. The manuals warn that substantial damage is possible, requiring servicing by a trained technician. The same problem occurs during a power outage. Given the printer’s high power use, it is not feasible to connect it to a UPS.

that scares me lol.

15minute warm up time!!!!! is that over exxagerating or is it right?

My work has a Xerox Phaser & it prints excellent color pages. I just saw the bill the other day for the solid-ink refills, was $93ish for 3 blocks of ink.

yea, but 3 blocks last an average of 3400 pages in color. That’s damn good! Plus you can get them a lot cheaper.

You can find 4 blocks of each of the 4 colors (CMYK) for under $170.

when you first plug it in, yes. But once it warms up, you don’t have to do anything… you could let it sit for days before printing and once you click "print" the first page comes out in under 5 secs.
Xerox Phasers are excellent for "small" bulk printing. I wouldn’t use an inkjet to make brochures, you’ll go broke buying ink cartridges.
oh ok. Seems good. But what i was ready is that i cant move the printer around much due to the melted ink blocks spilling all over the place. Do i really need to be worried about that? Once used, how long does it take before i can move the printer ? Thanks

Pick a good spot so you don’t have to move it.
You would be sickened if you plugged it into the nearest socket to get it heated up.

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Help? Thanks.
I’ve used study guides from fravo.com for a few certs and they are amazing…

They also guarantee you pass on your first try or they will give you your money back.
A+ for dummies was actually a pretty good book for someone wanting to pass the test

Is A+ recognized in Europe? (Ireland specifically)

Twould be good if I could get a cert to my name..
A+ isn’t really recognized anywhere as being anything worthwhile.

it is if a job you apply for requires it, Dell requires it for their technicians. It’s a bottom rung cert so ya you arent landing 100K a year jobs with it but it’s a good basic indicator for anyone getting started.

its absolutely worthless, except for that it’s a basic level requirement, where if you don’t have it, then you obviously can’t do anything with computers.

It’s more of a formalized assurance of ‘I do know a little bit about computers’
I figure it’ll help my get jobs while I’m in school studying for my comp engineering degree. I just want the cert to have it, I know some employers care for it and some don’t. It really depends on who you talk to. I didn’t want this to be a debate thread as I’m sure even some of the people who think its worthless have it. You can’t get some jobs without some sort of certifications or somet experience, and this is a good cert to start with, wouldn’t you agree?
If he has no experience or skills, there’s nothing wrong with an A+ cert to get his foot in the door at an entry-level position. Why do you fucks have to troll every thread about this shit?

Help him or leave him be.

I would agree, as many places require it as a prerequisite of working there, as I more or less hinted at with my ‘formalized assurance’ statement

I can guarantee you a place isn’t going to turn you down for not having your A+ if you’ve got part of your mcse or your ccna or something.

Likely not, however, especially retail tech stores, have signs boasting ‘All our technicians are A+ certified’

and they could not allow you to be a tech until you were. That said, if you have your higher level certs, it’s pretty sad if you’re working at a retail tech store. If you were, they’d likely hire you, then pay to have you A+ certified so that you could be a tech.

That said, it’s neither here nor there for this discussion. A+ is the first step for most aspiring computer technicians, because it’s the most basic of the certifications.
The Windows XP [soon Vista, I guess] part of the mcse/mcsa is just as easy to get as the A+, and a lot more relevant.

yep, the 70-620 exam is easy as hell
So would you say A+ for dummies >= the top seller on that page & others listed?

would it be important to look for something that is published in 08? or late 07? i figure they’d possibly include more up-to-date info. what would you all say?

cmsurfer, thanks for the recommendation, but i just have a think for paper books > online. although that guarantee is kinda cool

You buy online and then download the guides to your PC. It comes with a built-in test engine where you can simulate the test or just practice questions and they offer explanations on all answers… It also comes with all the questions in a .pdf you could print out if you wanted.

Definitely get something current. I’m not sure how often, but they do update the tests to stay current. I would imagine Vista questions are included now…

I’d just go to a Barnes and Noble and look around to see what they have. Take a close look… Some books offer a discount on the test voucher.

When I took my tests I think they were $125… I think it’s $250/test now??
If the HR dept. is scanning through a boatload of resumes and they’re tossing ones that don’t say A+, because that’s one of the requirements, then you’re screwed and may not even get an interview where you can prove your knowledge to someone beyond HR. It’s cheap insurance.
exam works program. you will pass the exam in 1 week. I studied for 1 week and passed with there exam software if you want it hit me up via pm

Truth.

I got my A+. I took a class. The only thing that might be considered ‘hard’ with the A+ is that you have to have a bit of knowledge about things that are kind of obsolete – like knowing IRQ assignments and such.

If I had a room full of components that were not assembled and a W2K disk could you put all those pieces together into a working PC and get the OS installed on it without my help?

If the answer is ‘YES’ then just get a book and take the damned test already.
If the answer is ‘No’ then an A+ class is a terrific introduction into such things.
so now the question would be what should I do with my a+ Im going on a interview next week for a call center but was wondering where I could get a more hands on job even if it pays crap.

A+ is all you need for most retail stores (to be a tech)

your next step would be more certifications really

I use exam works because it uses the same format and has the exact same answers and all the choices and all of the possible questions in one package.

A+ is the shit, got me $85k a year at Google with no experience and zero college.

Yeah, uh, using a braindump is against every TOS there is when it comes to certifications. If they find out that you used one, they’ll revoke your cert and ban you from taking a test by them again.

Can’t see that happening unless you walked into the study center with the braindump printed out.

Sure, but how the fuck would they find out if you didn’t tell them or anyone else? Only dumbasses pay for braindumps so there is no way to trace it back to you.
They’re adding in facial recognition cameras and doing analysis on the pictures/how you took your test.

Cisco is footing the bill for the Pearson VUE centers. If you’re using Prometric for vendors that allow it, though, you’ll be fine.

Is that some kind of joke? They just arbitrarily decide based a video playback of the test if they think you used a braindump?

edit:

What the fuck. If you don’t fit their performance metrics they will press charges for cheating? This reeks of aids and fail.

you fail at reading comprehension. If you don’t fit their performance metrics, they give you a free rewrite to demonstrate you did know the material.

The people who get charged are the ones writing as proxies and stealing questions
I own the "exam cram" one. I havent really read it yet, but its thick and has a lot of nice info

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