what do you guys think about this router? (No more dlink.. they suck… LINKSYS is good right?)

(supports 802.11n)
Looks good to me. But you know what they say about assholes and opinions.
I had mucho problems with my Linksys WRTs until I went with a D-Link DIR-655 and have never had issues since.
I like my ZyXEL X-550. Had it for only 6 months or so and haven’t had a single low strength or dropped connection, absolutely no issues with it so far.

I’m using it in a 2 bedroom 920 sq ft apartment and have 2 hard-wired computers, 2 wireless computers, 1 wireless Wii, and occasionally 1 wireless phone.
I was going to buy that model, but went with the WRT100 since I have nothing that uses 802.11n. No problems with it so far.
so you had the router for 8 years before it started failing you and you think that sucks? sounds pretty good to me.

. same here

linksys would disconnect me 4-8 times a day, and wouldn’t work again via wireless until I cycled the power.

Returned it, bought a D-link for $50 and had no problems

That problem has been fixed.. although it took them 3 generations to fix.

in any case, I still will strongly recommend D-Link over linksys any day at this point in time
I went from linksys to the D-Link DIR-655. Great choice. 802.11n, GB Ethernet, decent control panel. Never drops, can cover my whole house and has zero interference from microwaves or cordless phones.

Was there ever a good one?

Over 3 billion people believe in something that can’t be proved….
Lately I’ve been using Catalyst::Rose::Controller::CRUD at work. You know it CAN’T DO CRUD on a table with a compound primary key? I began to empathize with the RAILS haters when that happened, as hacking around that limitation was so much harder than no framework at all.
Rails is great in theory, if it was able to do what is says. Active Record pattern is not implemented 100% and breaks a lot of shit when people want to run CRUD with more complex relationships.

Good god if you want to scale, it’s gonna pound you in the ass.

Sounds a lot like communism to me, great in theory too but fails epically!

no there arn’t that many mac users.
NetGear ProSafe firewall/vpn/router in the blue metal box. I think you can get one with a built-in wireless access point, but there’s no reason (cost aside) not to just get a separate ProSafe WAP. They have some nice auto-tuning features that make it easy to drown out all other wireless signals within your space, but not outside your space.
the netgear units WERE good, but i don’t recommend them any more. They don’t have the power to keep up with modern high-speed connections.
I use them in my office on a dual business DSL setup. The DSL is definitely the bottleneck. Their gigabit switches are particularly good.

The DSL would be the bottleneck compared to almost any ethernet device made this decade.

No, not the WRTs. They crap out.

not with dd::wrt

Supposedly. But I wouldn’t know, DD::wrt wouldn’t load on any of my revision WRTs.

what versions?
Fucked if I know, I threw the WRTs in teh garbage a long time ago.

Believe it or not, DD::WRT is not supported on all WRTs. It is not flawless limitless magical software any more than OS X is.
I used to be a huge linksys sackrider.. but they have failed me a few times now.. 4 of them, I believe.

Now I have an airport extreme and wouldn’t buy anything different.

and yet you couldn’t aswer a simple question such as "what was the version #?" so I’m gonna have to go with pebkac as the most likely issue.

most people have lives and don’t memorize the version numbers of their gear

That goes for anything short of a direct fiber connection, sparky. Even a T3 is slower than a gigabit switch.

I’m not defending my office’s cheap internet connection, but your point is still moot.

Look at the underside of the damn box already. It’s printed on a sticker.

after they’ve thrown it out?

Look at the insurance photos then.

(j/k)
I admit it. The fact that I don’t know the version number of a router I haven’t had for years indicates that I’m a fraud, and that even though DD::WRT didn’t work with that hardware because it didn’t work with that hardware, it was actually ALL MY FAULT.

Jolly’s got to win sometimes.

i had a WRT54G but it was like a version 6 or something so it would only allow DD-WRT micro. it was ok, but then I got a WRT54GL which is the linksys router built for custom firmware and I put tomato on it, it has worked great. these are the only two routers i’ve owned and neither has crapped out yet.
p.s., if you’re interested in a WRT54GL there’s a slickdeal going for them right now:
I object to having to mess with a router to get it to work. I just want them to work. So I got one that does.

Agreed
you guys talking about third party firmware? i mean cause the router works out of the box and linksys actually has a pretty decent default firmware, it’s just if you want some of those extra features that don’t usually come standard. the QoS in Tomato is freakin amazing.
WRTs for about a decade DID NOT WORK. They overheated and dropped connectons. Linksys did NOTHING to fix that for 10 years. I’m supposed to give them my business?

Fuck that.

i’m not saying you should… just speaking from my own personal experience, i’ve only owned more recent models of linksys products and they’ve done everything i’ve expected them to

well maybe they don’t trust you
I never did understand what was so bloody difficult about adding a small, low-speed fan to the design of the case. All the pro hardware has them, maybe there’s a reason for it.

or a bigger fucking heatsink?

Whats more… if DD::WRT fixed the problem, why the fuck didn’t they use that fix? This went on for a decade.

Heatsinks don’t do any good if there’s nothing to carry the heat out of the case. Since it’s a plastic case, there’s no way to conduct the heat, so that leaves convection as the only option.

Well, they could mold the case so the heatsink can protrude, then it could radiate heat out of the case, but they’ll never do that, so really, convection is the only way to make it work. Remove case, insert fan, connect wires, reinstall case, profit.

Bigger holes for heatsink to vent. The point being that a 3rd grader could have solved this problem in 10 years, and they couldn’t.

I solved it in ten minutes on mine.

Also, right now I’m using one of the new shiny black Linksys routers at home, and it’s been working nicely despite BT downloads and online gaming and multiple installs of Service Pack 3, so I’m content with it for now. If I had it to do over again, I’d still buy NetGear ProSafe hardware, though. Metal > Plastic.
you guys talking about third party firmware? i mean cause the router works out of the box and linksys actually has a pretty decent default firmware, it’s just if you want some of those extra features that don’t usually come standard. the QoS in Tomato is freakin amazing.
WRTs for about a decade DID NOT WORK. They overheated and dropped connectons. Linksys did NOTHING to fix that for 10 years. I’m supposed to give them my business?

Fuck that.

i’m not saying you should… just speaking from my own personal experience, i’ve only owned more recent models of linksys products and they’ve done everything i’ve expected them to

well maybe they don’t trust you
I never did understand what was so bloody difficult about adding a small, low-speed fan to the design of the case. All the pro hardware has them, maybe there’s a reason for it.

or a bigger fucking heatsink?

Whats more… if DD::WRT fixed the problem, why the fuck didn’t they use that fix? This went on for a decade.

Heatsinks don’t do any good if there’s nothing to carry the heat out of the case. Since it’s a plastic case, there’s no way to conduct the heat, so that leaves convection as the only option.

Well, they could mold the case so the heatsink can protrude, then it could radiate heat out of the case, but they’ll never do that, so really, convection is the only way to make it work. Remove case, insert fan, connect wires, reinstall case, profit.

Bigger holes for heatsink to vent. The point being that a 3rd grader could have solved this problem in 10 years, and they couldn’t.

I solved it in ten minutes on mine.

Also, right now I’m using one of the new shiny black Linksys routers at home, and it’s been working nicely despite BT downloads and online gaming and multiple installs of Service Pack 3, so I’m content with it for now. If I had it to do over again, I’d still buy NetGear ProSafe hardware, though. Metal > Plastic.

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Google has not helped much
it can be done but you must have the right card. MarvelSoftAP is one piece of software that works with some cards.

Overall, it is not a recommended approach. If you are using Win2k8 for routing, it’s recommended that you use a 10/100/1000 ethernet card and a discrete AP. Something like a WRT54Gv4 would be very cheap and with dd::wrt firmware will even support radius servers and other features that will integrate well with your 2k8 box.

Thanks for the info, Id like to get a WRT54G. Just alittle broke right now.
I have a great router just need something for a good AP that works well

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Our first setup is:

Win XP
Netstumbler
Earthstumber (convert ns1 logs to google earth)
Google Earth
Proxim Ornico Gold b/g
3db omni ant
10db directional ant
Earthmate LT-20 GPS

Second setup is:

Redhat 9
Kismet
GPSD
some shitty scripts to convert/log kismet and make JPG’s of the drive
Proxim Ornico Gold b/g
3db omni ant
10db directional ant
Garmen Etrex Venture GPS

Kismet is obviously the best scanning tool out there, but crashes and is rubbish to work with and our scripts are crap. Not to mention GPSD is annoying and barely works. The windows setup works great but obviously has it’s shortcomings compared to the unix setup.

Any ideas?
What exactly is wardriving again? The practice of securing a wireless network, or something like that?

In my situation, like I explained, it is finding all known networks, ensuring they are compliant with security standards. Then locating any unknown/misconfigured networks and correcting/removing them.

it is driving around scanning for open wireless networks… exactly what he described in his original post.

And who are you that you have this authority?

I understand that now, but it seems such a breathtaking breach of privacy that I can’t imagine why they would do it, much less admit to it.

i’m not sure at all what the legitimacy is or why a business would be interested in doing it, unless he works for AT&T or a similar company who has to manage many WiFi hotspots and this is their simplest way of verifying everything.
In a company sense it is just like penetration testing, you have to test and (sometimes) attempt to break in to your own networks to find all the weaknesses you can, so you can harden it all up. What you can and can’t do all depend on your company and the directives that you’ve been given.

You can also wardrive around wherever you want just for fun (not in a company sense, in the more "whitehat" sense), and I believe it is legal as long as you are doing it passively and not attempting to break in to any networks. In this case you’d just be mapping out a wireless access point grid for your city/area/whatever.

As soon as you try and break in you are crossing the legality line.

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