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repost… but yeah. kinda scary how fast that can happen. i’ve always done internet updates and typically don’t have too many virus/spyware issues. that’s just the risk you take.
Yeah I remember installing W2K on an open network – it was compromised before I had a chance to install updates
Huh…

When I reformat our W2k and XP mahcines at work, I usually have a local copy of the latest service packs installed before the network cable gets plugged in.
Meh, there’s no real need if you’re behind a firewall. I just let WSUS do its thing.
if you’re connecting a machine (patched or otherwise) directly to the internet, you’re an idiot.
Service pack "Network Installs" extracted to CD > windows update
How can you tell if a computer has been "compromised?" I run my computer without AV, windows firewall off, and the router DMZ’d to my static IP, but I don’t experience any troubles.

If that were the case…you deserve what you get.

Try a few virus and malware scanners. Your pc could be part of a bot net without you knowing.

HE’S BACK!

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*big collective sigh*

linux sucks just as much if you look at the patch lists.
And the almighty Firefox just released some major flaws in 3.0 this week.
"almighty" is a fairly loose term, then. suckmaster9000 is more what I’d call it.

yeah, but there is significantly more you can do with Linux in order to protect it than you can with windows out of the box… or at least they make it much easier. it is incredibly easy to turn everything off on a fresh install of any UNIX operating system so that no one can get onto your system remotely.

Its really easy to keep a linux box up longer than 4 minutes on a default install. But lets pretend thats not the case just so you don’t feel like a windows moop, ok? I get it.

same with windows
that’s funny, I’ve been running windows for 15 years and I’ve never had my computer attacked or exploited. that’s a lot longer than four minutes.

We’re talking about a brand new install of Windows (XP) without any patches or a/v software…

I sure hope you have the latest service packs and updates + A/V on your systems…

sorry moop, it’s not as easy.

anti-virus is for noobs

Since XP SP2, it has been that easy.

The problem being that unless you have a router to protect your PC… you don’t have TIME to get the patches you need before you get rootored.

I haven’t used an antivirus in like 10 years. you only need antivirus if you’re an idiot.

Ummm. No. The built in firewall to XP in SP2 is sufficient to keep directed attacks out. You can use Windows Update which communicates with MS’s servers to get the patches.

Most of the security patches to SP2 revolve around protecting you once you go out into the dangerous interweb.

What OS do you use?

I guess I’m an idiot then… I think it’s completely stupid to not have antivirus software.

"i’ll never need a seatbelt, I’ll never crash."

for personal use there’s nothing stupid about not using antivirus, i’ve never had a virus and never used antivirus and i’ve been using a computer since ms-dos. albeit i do have AVG installed on my laptop now, but it’s disabled and its only there so the cisco clean access agent will let me on the school wireless.

some virus scanners are probably more detrimental to computer performance than actually having a virus
I have found Avast to be less intrusive than AVG. Regardless, I have most of the real-time scanners turned off…. I know when to right click and do a manual scan.

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November 2nd, 2008 | Tags: a/v software, antivirus software, firewall, Internet Storm Centre, internet updates, Linux, Lorna Hutcheson, Microsoft Windows, network address translation router, Network Installs, operating system, researcher, sacrificial systems, SANS Institute's Internet Storm Centre, school wireless, Thorsten Holz, UNIX, UNIX operating system, vulnerable systems, XP | Category: general | Subscribe to comments | Leave a comment | Trackback URL